[Zachary Lowry]

The simple answer to “How much should i expect the trees being down to impact price?” is a lot, probably, but the complex answer:

The trees were affected in two ways: The product itself was damaged, and the ability to harvest that wood was diminished.

As for damage to the product, being torn up by the roots is probably the best way to go. In these situations, the tree can remain alive for an extra growing season maybe, so stain is avoided, and the main value of the stem is intact. However, when trees break, you can lose a significant chunk of their commercial value, but it depends where it breaks. Breaking 4 feet off the ground is pretty brutal because that’s the middle of the most valuable log in the tree. Breaking near the top, which is more common, isn’t nearly as detrimental to value, but any break can introduce stain or damage the logs past the point of severance.

The trickiest part of salvage cutting is the economics of harvest. The first question is the density of the fallen wood. If you had a couple hundred trees come down spread over a hundred acres, there arent many scenarios where you can profitably pay someone to harvest them, unless they are all very nice logs. The better scenario is if you have a fairly confined patch where they all blew down. In that situation, it is a lot more efficient to have a harvest, but there are still other considerations that diminish value. Cutting trees from the root ball can be annoying relative to a regular job, and possibly more dangerous, as the heavy root ball can add different forces to the equation.

To get around both of these issues, Id really ask why the trees came down. Unless it was really a tornado or something extremely uncommon, the trees are probably following their natural mortality patterns, and if a species is prone to blowdown (like most poplars), the new gaps in the canopy make future blowdown more likely. Maybe consider making some patch cuts around the spots with the most blowdown. It can greatly improve the economics of harvest and create some intentional regeneration.

[Nathan Mooney]

I can actually add to that comment of zacks about the added dangers and forces. Part of what I do for one of the property owners I work for in KY is clear out dead trees or fallen snags that are hung up in other trees. The only way I can do it is slowly, and I have a tractor with a logging wench (Norse 350) that I can hook up if needed to help pull the tree down away from the tree its hung up in. It can not be done fast enough to make a huge profit, especially if they are all scattered and not in one area. But, by getting them out before they rot, can help pay for some of the costs of removal. If the area is hard to access and is not frequiently traveled by people in the forest, it may not be worth getting them out unless they are like Zack said “really good logs”. My experience is it makes the forest more enjoyable for recreation and esthetics when they are removed, and its safer for anyone dealing with snags and deadfalls not to have something dead that high in the canopy. Those are some of the factors I would consider before making the decision if they are worth going in just to harvest them…. that being said, if you are due for a timber thinning and TSI work that might afford the opportunity to take care of both tasks at one time and you can easily break even with a person who knows how to safely remove them and is equipt to do the job.

[Kip Wanaselja]

I’ve done a couple jobs where I’ve salvaged storm damaged trees, usually in a rural residential setting as opposed to a timber property. So access is easy but care needs to be taken in removal. Usually I am getting paid to remove or taking the timber as payment if there is enough value. Sometimes you can have a log that looks OK but when you cut into it there is a big split down the center and it’s worthless as a result.

[Terry Orndorff]

You might collaborate with other landowners nearby who may be in the same situation with knockdowns. Collectively, you may present a larger salvage “harvest” that would be more marketable. Ohio Ag or Forestry might be helpful too.